Episode 6: Finding Nessie with Professor Neil Gemmell

Communicating the science of genetics

Episode Fast Facts

Time: 37 minutes

“We have to find ways to communicate our research before we start it, while we’re doing it and then after we’ve done…What do we want to do and why? How and who is going to benefit from it? How is this actually improving society? I think it’s a great privilege to do what we do.”  
– Professor Neil Gemmell

Special Guest: Professor Neil Gemmell (University of Otago, New Zealand)

The Collective: Rae Kumar, Camila Pardo Uribe, Felice Ng, Emma Gill, Kate Holmes, Kelly Hopkinson

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Professor Neil Gemmell. Image credit: University of Otago

Episode Credits

Guest: Professor Neil Gemmell 

Host: Rae Kumar

Producers: Kate Holmes, Emma Gill

Audio Engineering & Editing: Camila Pardo Uribe

Research: Felice Ng, Camila Pardo Uribe, Emma Gill, Kate Holmes, Kelly Hopkinson, Rae Kumar

Show notes: Camila Pardo Uribe, Felice Ng, Emma Gill

Audiogram by Headliner.app

You’ve heard about DNA… but what about eDNA? From tracking invasive species to sex-changing fish to cryptozoology, Professor Neil Gemmell (Geneticist, University of Otago) has explored the science of DNA throughout his academic career. 

In this episode, join Masters student Rae (University of Western Australia) as she picks Neil’s brain on the Finding Nemo re-make the world is not ready for; how the COVID pandemic helped increase the public understanding of science; and the importance of building trust between scientific and local and indigenous communities. Plus, hear about how a Twitter conversation – and the excitement of Neil’s children – led to a search for the Loch Ness Monster and an unexpected exercise in science communication!

“It’s beholden to us to communicate the benefits of our research. We have to find ways to communicate our research before, during, and after we start doing it… It’s really important to maintain public funding of science and retain people’s faith in science, to be open and honest, and have these great conversations about the weird and wonderful things we find.” – Professor Neil Gemmell

For more information on Neil and team’s research, visit ⁠⁠Gemmell Lab⁠⁠.

Do you think the movie world is ready for an accurate depiction of fish biology? Why is the Loch Ness Monster an enduring myth, despite scientific evidence? Let us know your thoughts below!

Genetics, Science Communication, Sex-Changing Fish, Neil Gemmell, University Of Otago, New Zealand, Loch Ness Monster, Environmental DNA, eDNA, Citizen Science, Indigenous Collaboration, Predator Control, Public Engagement, Genetic Technologies, Cultural Similarities, Storytelling, Marine Biology, Biodiversity, Research Collaboration, Science Education, Community Trust

The Collective on this episode:
Rae Kumar

Rae Kumar

Interviewer & Researcher
Camila Pardo Uribe

Camila Pardo Uribe

Audio Editor, Researcher, Show notes Writer
Felice Ng

Felice Ng

Researcher, Show notes Writer
Emma Gill

Emma Gill

Producer, Editor, Season 1 Director
Kate Holmes

Kate Holmes

Producer, Researcher
Kelly Hopkinson

Kelly Hopkinson

Researcher

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